A conversation based on my predictions


Here is a transcript of a conversation I had between myself and Andrew G. Alt. He also has a great Blog, be sure to check him out as well.
Leave comments, ideas or concerns in the comment area, I would love hearing them all.
 Andrew G. Alt
I was planning to rent Return of the Jedi tomorrow. I’m surprised to hear that Leia and Luke are siblings after that kiss she planted on him when I watched Empire for the first time last night. Additionally, I have doubts that Luke will have Mr. Vader’s assertion confirmed that he is the young Jedi’s father. Though I’ve seen parodies that suggest such a thing, I have trouble with that because of the coincidence factor: The battlecruiser from the beginning of A New Hope just happens to be disabled and boarded above Luke’s home planet, the droids jettisoned within a short distance from where Luke lives (Tattooine has a very large surface area making this next to impossible). Within only an hour, Luke is on the Death Star watching Obi-Wan meet his fate by the hand of Mr. Vader. Oh yes, and Luke’s supposed sister just happens to be a prisoner at the exact same time the Millenium Falcon has been tractored in.
And my memory on these events are fresh because I watched A New Hope for the first time two days ago.
All right, forget all that nonsense. If Luke must remain abstinent to keep with traditional Jedi ways, wouldn’t that have to apply to Princess Leia, his “sister?”
Easy enough to write in, I suppose. She and Mr. Solo conceived before she found out that she was a Jedi as well. To make things believable, it would have had to happen sometime between Han being rescued from Jabba’s palace, and Luke telling Leia she’s his sister (which I don’t know about yet because I haven’t watched Jedi yet, according to my first paragraph).
But of course Leia wouldn’t know about the tradition, so could conceivably conceive at the “End of the Empire Party” after the Death Star (I assume) is destroyed, before Luke shows up to tell her about the Jedi tradition, which he wouldn’t know about because Obi-Wan and Yoda never passed that information on. Perhaps they told him off-camera, but either way, in all earnestness, I don’t see that the writers of the sequel will be tied to keeping that tradition.
As for the rest of your suggestions, they sound pretty reasonable. I have been a fan of the Star Wars franchise for two days now and am interested to see what comes next. I’ll give a review of Jedi tomorrow; hopefully I’ll be the first one to post of review of it on the Internet. 
Lance Goolsby
Thanks for the response, And more importantly, WELCOME TO THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE!!!
I would love to talk with you once you have seen Return of the Jedi, Without seeing it, I will be giving too many spoilers. RotJ Has the most important events to the entire Luke, Lea, Han and Darth story. They will be immensely important to the overall story to Episode VII.
As a new watcher, I would also love to hear your thoughts and insights to the stories. I have seen each of the original 3 about once a year since seeing Star Wars in theaters in 1977. I have been deeply taken into the story, and also read many of the books, and play the games, that I am now immune to any information from them. But you, as a fresh set of eyes, are open to interpret everything as I could never do right now.
Once you see RotJ, please write me again, and lets talk about the films.
As for Lea becoming a Jedi, I don’t believe she will. My belief is that she will study, but will not become a Jedi. She will have a Lightsaber, but will not be a Jedi, she will most likely be in some kind of leadership roll in the government.
Once you see RotJ, then I will divulge more. But until then…
May the Force Be With You.
Lance
Andrew G. Alt
I sincerely apologize–I was trying to be funny in my comment, but after reading what I wrote, I see that I failed completely in making it clear I was being satiral. Again, I apologize.

The first SW movie I saw was ROTJ when I was about 13 years old. I read the novels based on the movies, and soon after, when VCRs became more available, I saw A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back.
I couldn’t tell you the number of times I’ve seen them all. More than 20, I’d guess.
One thing about ROTJ that confused me was Luke going back to Dagobah, “I have a promise to keep… to an old friend.”
But when he arrives and is with Yoda, Yoda said, “no more training do you require.” In ESB, Yoda and Obi-Wan were adamant that Luke stay to complete the training, that he wasn’t ready to face Vader. But then in ROTJ Yoda basically says that he won’t be a Jedi until he confronts Vader again.
If Luke had been back to Dagobah (to complete the training) in the six months since Han was frozen in carbonite, this would make sense to me. In fact, if I recall correctly, that’s what I assumed when I was younger and first saw it. But there’s really no indication that he was. Other than he seems more “controlled and disciplined” in the beginning of ROTJ. But he talked about keeping a promise to an old friend, the only one we know about being the one he made when he abruptly left Dagobah to rescue Han, Leia, Chewie, and C-3P0.
But obviously I liked ROTJ. I like the original trilogy far better than the other trilogy. I won’t go into all the reaons.
Guten Tag

Lance Goolsby

AH, ha ha ha, ok. I do love satire.
Ok, I think first of all there is a larger focus on Tatooine, that needs to be addressed. As you said, too many things happen on or around it that are way too far beyond coincidence to be ignored. It is my belief that the force was guiding all involved to the planet for whatever reason to be determined.
1) Anakin was born on Tatooine
2) the royal cruiser was hijacked in the space above the planet, thusly meaning that Princess Lea was flying around the universe, and ended up above her fathers home planet before her father captured her.
3) R2D2 and C3PO (Built by Anakin) crash landed their escape pod on the planet
4) Ob-Wan Kenobi brought Luke back to Tatooine, even knowing that Anakin was from the planet (Many speculate that it may be because Anakin would never return knowing his mother was killed there, and there he was held in slave labor. I for one don’t believe this, as it was in part to these events that Anakin became Darth Vader.)
5) Han Solo is captured on Cloud City, and then transported back to Tatooine to be hung on the wall of a fat slug he owes money too.
6) Ob-Wan Kenobi and Qai-Gon Jinn crash land on Tatooine with Pademe Amadala and end up walking into Waddo’s parts store where Anakin is a slave
There are far too many facts happening on this planet. All of which, in one way or another are important to the overall story.
Ok, now back to the overall story line of the original three;
I don’t understand the consistancy in the story between the kiss with luke, and in Return when luke comes and says “You are my sister.” Lea then responds with “I know, somehow I’ve always known.” Ok, she knew he was her brother, and then laid a kiss on him? That is kinda gross. I do understand it was just to make Han Solo jealous, and based on the kiss in Return with Han, it worked well. But it is still kinda gross. Why not Chewbacca? would have been a little less gross.
As for all three being at the Death Star at the same time in A New Hope, It can be accounted to the force 100% for that one. Luke is a force user, Lea is as well, just does not know it, Ob-Wan is and Vader is as well, they are four of the remaining 6 force users in the universe. Only Palpatine, and Yoda are missing. Of course the force would want to bring them together to bring a balance to the force. If you read any of the extended universe books, they kinda make clear that the force guides people. Hell, even Ob-Wan said something like it to luke in A New Hope, “The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It’s an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.” Binding the six force users.
I believe Princess lea, or rather Lea Organna, will have learned in the way of the Jedi, she will not have become one. You can see her learning through ESB, and ROTJ, when she “Feels” Luke, as he is dangling on the underside of cloud city, when he meets Darth Vader on the platform. Or her “Somehow I’ve always known” statement.
She will study, as it is the family business (ha ha ha) but she will always come back to the smuggler. they will have gotten married, and had kids. This is where we will find the story beginning in VII.
Luke, being more of the heart driven of the two, will follow in the way of the Jedi. He will have made his way to Coriscuant, and studied the Jedi Holocrons, learning much in the way of the force. He will then re-establish the Jedi order, the New Jedi Order, and the first students will have been the Solo kids.
When Luke arives back on Dagobah, Yoda tells him he needs no more training. He knows that the circle is about to become complete again, and father and son are about to have an understanding, that will fulfill the prophecy of Anakin being the chosen one. The one to bring the Empire to its knees (Or off a platform into a reactor). It is my belief this is why Yoda responded to Luke like this on his return. Also Yoda knew he was about to die.
Now for the part I forgot.
The Empire was never destroyed. It was crippled, but Palpatine would have had so many plans in place for the outcome of just such an event. Other Sith in waiting, leaders primed and ready to go should his demise happen. This is where we will pick up in VII. The Empire plots to overthrow the new government, and install the Empire as rulers of the universe under the Sith hand.
This is where I believe Lea is in some form of a leadership roll, and it is her, or her and Solo, that will be plotted against by the Sith, to cause a disruption that will allow them to revolt and then capture the senate.
Ok. My thoughts have gone on long enough.
Lance
Andrew G. Alt

Luke pointed out that the emperor’s overconfidence was his weakness; so, in my opinion, the emperor would not have made plans for his own demise because it’s something he never foresaw.
hope the next movie doesn’t involve the evil Galactic Empire. Seeing the Death Star blown up twice by the Alliance taking advantage of an architectural defect was enough for me; and in “reality” I’ve seen it blown up over 40 times, if I count the number of times I’ve seen the movies.

Lance Goolsby
I believe without a doubt that we will be seeing the Empire again. As strange as it may seem. Just like in our world, we took out the head of Alkeida but the entity is still around. So imagining a 30 year time span where the Empire has been secretly rebuilding itself under a new leadership is not too far fetched. In fact, it is a realistic story plot. I am hoping it is a leader that is far more different than Palpatine, more dependent upon his followers, and hopefully also, better plans for super space stations… Ha ha ha
As for Luke’s statement. I believe Palpatine had every possible outcome planned. He always had an apprentice, a right hand. We don’t know how many he had out and about in the universe traveling around spreading the seed of the Sith. Palpatine as a Sith believed in a single Sith, infiltrating the system to take it over from inside, through subversion, as seen in episode I to III.
Later when he was in charge, I believe he would have stiffened his grip by bringing the Sith order back, having an anti Jedi group.
This may not happen in the films, but as a leader as he was it would have made the most sense.
The Emperor was quite overconfident, always being in the same place as his super weapons, which was his weakness in the end.
I love these talks. If you have more thoughts, I would love hearing them. In fact I will post these discussions as a page on this blog, so more people can read them as well, see if we can stir up some more as well between us.

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About Lance "Magic" Goolsby

I may be best known for being Co-host of the Global Detection Adventures podcast, as well as my youtube channel, Detecting Bavaria with Lance and XP Deus. I am founder/creator and director of the Global Detecting Adventures (GDA) site and videos as well as a metal detector myself. I am also an avid Star Wars fan and collector of Star Wars toys and Memorabilia. I am now co-host of the Holocron of the Whills, A Star Wars Talk Show. I am a father, metal detector, comic collector, toy collector and many more things.

Posted on April 24, 2014, in Lances Thoughts and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 6 Comments.

  1. Lance, thank you for the nice mention of me and my web site. 🙂

    I don’t know how much more I’ll have to say about this topic, but a few things still come to mind.

    […] So imagining a 30 year time span where the Empire has been secretly rebuilding itself under a new leadership is not too far fetched.[…]

    I agree. I think any good write could handle working in a new conflict with the Empire. An excellent writer would craft it so fans won’t bother to tear it apart, if you get my meaning. I’m not saying I think J.J. Abrams is a good or excellent writer–I’m still up in the air about that. But no, I wouldn’t count the Empire out yet.

    Though really, you could have a good story with a new enemy. Episodes 1 – 3 didn’t involve the Empire, at least not as we knew it. So if the writers for the impending sequel really want to get creative and innovative, hopefully the Jedi will have a new nemesis. After all, if the crew of the Enterprise from Star Trek stories can get new enemies, I think a good writer can “give” new enemies to the Jedi.

    On another point that hasn’t come up yet, there are some who question whether or not the Rebel Alliance were in fact, the “good guys.” Have you ever seen the movie Clerks?
    There is an enlightening and thought-provoking conversation in one scene that can really turn how one views good and evil upside-down. I can recommend the movie if you haven’t seen it, but I managed to find a tanscript online. Here it is:
    http://www.whysanity.net/monos/clerks5.html

  2. This is an excerpt from the link I provided in my previous comment:

    Randal: The second time around, it wasn’t even finished yet. They were still under construction.
    Dante: So?
    Randal: A construction job of that magnitude would require a helluva lot more manpower than the Imperial army had to offer. I’ll bet there were independent contractors working on that thing: plumbers, aluminum siders, roofers.
    Dante: Not just Imperials, is what you’re getting at.
    Randal: Exactly. In order to get it built quickly and quietly they’d hire anybody who could do the job. Do you think the average storm trooper knows how to install a toilet main? All they know is killing and white uniforms.
    Dante: All right, so even if independent contractors are working on the Death Star, why are you uneasy with its destruction?
    Randal: All those innocent contractors hired to do a job were killed- casualties of a war they had nothing to do with. (notices Dante’s confusion) All right, look-you’re a roofer, and some juicy government contract comes your way; you got the wife and kids and the two-story in suburbia-this is a government contract, which means all sorts of benefits. All of a sudden these left-wing militants blast you with lasers and wipe out everyone within a three-mile radius. You didn’t ask for that. You have no personal politics. You’re just trying to scrape out a living.

    • oh yes, Kevin Smith is one of my favorite Hollywood directors and writers, as for writing Batman he is good too, until he makes Batman pee himself when a bomb goes off. (HA HA HA)
      The Randal/Dante discussions, and later others through other of his films, really bring up great points.
      This point about the Rebellion is a little off beat, but it is a good discussion. It seems first, that the Rebellion is pretty well financed. The question is, is the rebellion backed by a majority of the planets that were represented in the senate? or is it a group financially backed by a single source that wants to then usurp control from the rebellion once the empire is removed from power.
      It is clear the Empire was a dictatorship that dominated through fear and domination.
      I believe the rebellion had the best intentions in mind, and simply called the construction crews collateral damage when the Death Star 2 was destroyed.
      It could be that the underlying reason the rebellion took on the empire was to instill their own government, and not reinstate a senate. But I don’t believe so.

      As for other enemies, well there is a universe of possibilities out there. Would be great to see nothing more than the rise of the Sith, taking over the universe on their own, without the empire. that would be cool, thousands of Sith, versus a handful of Jedi.
      Now how cool would that be?
      Could we finally see Corroban on film, (Or now named Morroban in the Clone Wars, as they thought it was too similar sounding to Coruscant)

      • Really, we don’t know there were any construction workers or independent contractors on board the Death Star at the time of its destruction. That was an assumption made by Randal. It’s easily within the realm of possibiity that some Imperials had a background in architectural design and plumbing, and completely sympathetic to the Empire and its desire for galactic domination. After that, all that would be needed are unskilled labor (i.e., idle storm troopers) to complete tasks assigned to them by the much-more knowledgeable supervisors.

  3. Lance Goolsby

    I saw that this morning. Been working nights at work so been kinda quiet. But the cast looks like my children prediction may yet be true. Today was a day that all fans have been waiting for. They could have waited 5 days and put the news out May the 4th. Would have been a little more epic… just a little… lol

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